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Nancy Thistlethwaite

About Nancy Thistlethwaite

Nancy Thistlethwaite is an editor who works on many popular shoujo manga series in North America. She has written feature articles and interviewed mangaka for the shoujo manga readership. After meeting her, Arina Tanemura made Nancy into a character in her Zettai Kakusei Tenshi Mistress ☆ Fortune manga. Nancy is currently learning the art of amigurumi and has various crocheted “bear bee” bits scattered across her living room floor. You can contact Nancy on twitter @nthistlethwaite.

Bringing the Drama: Master’s Sun

December 31, 2014 by Anna N, Nancy Thistlethwaite, Eva Volin and Emily Snodgrass Leave a Comment

ANNA: Master’s Sun is a drama from the nearly always excellent writing team of the Hong Sisters, who brought the world the beloved shows You’re Beautiful and The Greatest Love among others. Master’s Sun is the story of an incredibly sleep-deprived woman who sees ghosts, and the arrogant yet secretly vulnerable President of a mega mall, who happens to have a ghost repelling ability and an inexplicable affection for wearing cravats in confusing ways.

I absolutely adored Master’s Sun, from the opening credits to the last scene of the final episode! What are your thoughts?

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EMILY: I was wary going into this drama because the Hong Sisters had a serious misstep with their previous drama, Big. However, after watching this, I can say that they’ve returned in top form. This was a great drama. The characters are all so warm and weird and flawed, and they all really grew and changed as the story progressed. So Ji Sub, who I haven’t seen in any sort of comedic role in – I don’t even know how long – was great, playing his part with a quirky restraint, which allowed the always delightful Gong Hyo-Jin to go all out and be more outgoing and expressive and clingy. And ghost repellent– what a delightful excuse to get all touchy-feely!

Perplexed by cravats!

Perplexed by cravats!

EVA: As you know, I’m absolute crap when it comes to watching shows to the end. I bail at the first sign of boredom. But this time I was hooked. The characters had chemistry, the ghosts were scary (at least during the first few episodes — the horror scaled back quickly), and the side characters were appealing and never overshadowed the main couple. Even better, the plot holes (there are always plot holes) weren’t so deep that I couldn’t step over them on my way to the next episode. And the weirdly styled cravats! And the bad hair! And the impossibly high heels! And the overbearing relatives! Sigh. Oh, k-dramas, how I’ve missed you.

ANNA: I really loved the way the characters were so idiosyncratic. I do enjoy more predictable k-drama shows, but when a show stands out like this for the quality of the writing and character development, it reminds me just how good k-dramas can be! The main couple are both broken in different ways, and their relationship slowly starts them on the path towards change. I thought that that the bodyguard Kang Woo and spoiled model Tae Yi Ryung were also a great counterpoint to the main couple. I loved the way Kang Woo nonchalantly turned down all the attempts to ask him out.

EMILY: True, I do like shows where the female second lead is likable. So often K-dramas will go out of the way to make the male second lead extremely appealing (thus causing second-lead syndrome where fans like him better than the main guy) while the female second lead is stuck being a mean and nasty character. In Master’s Sun, while Yi Ryung was certainly not always friendly, she also had her really cute, sympathetic moments.

Scary ghost shenanigans!

Scary ghost shenanigans!

EVA: Exactly! The only truly evil character was the actual villain (which I won’t name here because spoilers). Yi Ryung is a brat, but she’s not evil and doesn’t try to do evil things. Is she mean? Yep. Does she try to embarrass her nemesis? You bet. But it’s not like she tries to get Gong Sil run over by a truck.

ANNA: I thought the number of times she got turned down in her romantic conquests made her seem much more sympathetic than the typical female second lead. Really, the entire main cast of the show was so quirky and memorable.

I have to say I really enjoyed the way Gong Shil’s need for ghost repellent caused her to get handsy with Joong Won at every opportunity. It was an amusing relationship dynamic that we don’t see very much in kdramas.

EVA: I really liked the way Joong Won’s character developed over the course of the show. Gong Shil’s need for his protection forced him to interact with people in a way he hadn’t since his kidnapping. As a result he learned empathy, humor, and that not all people suck. I was absolutely delighted the first time he smiled. It wasn’t until then that I realized he hadn’t smiled at all (smirks don’t count) in the first, what?, twelve episodes?

ANNA: I also enjoyed the way Joong Won’s character developed! I also thought that the central mystery for the show with the truth behind Joong Won’s kidnapping was well done. I was a little bit disappointed that some of the development towards the end of the series for Gong Shil happened off screen, but she had changed so much already throughout the course of the series.

EMILY: I liked how Joong Won accepted Gong Shil’s eccentricities. Her problem is a bit unusual, but he rolled with it fairly well. In particular, I liked his relationship with that ghost in the mall that communicated via trash can. I also appreciated how blunt he was in admitting his feelings. There was a bit less denial and dancing around emotions in this show than in typical kdramas. Everyone felt things strongly and expressed it right away. I could have done without the obligatory kdrama amnesia plot, but even that was not dragged on for too long. All in all, this is another solid show from the Hong Sisters, who prove once again how good they are at taking a standard kdrama plot and tilting it just a bit to make it fresh and enjoyable.

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Bringing the Drama: Heirs

February 25, 2014 by Anna N and Nancy Thistlethwaite Leave a Comment

Heirs is available for streaming on Dramafever.

Anna: I’ve just finished watching Heirs, and if someone had told me months ago that I would be forcing myself to watch a show with Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye, I would have been absolutely flabbergasted. But Heirs has managed to produce a show that squanders a good cast due to the lack of an interesting plot. I can’t believe I watched the whole thing! Really, the only thing keeping me going was knowing that I’d have the chance to discuss it with you. So I’m hoping for a chance to process my feelings of resentment for losing 20 hours of my life watching this show.

Heirs. This Picture is Much Better than the Actual Show.

Heirs. This Picture is Much Better than the Actual Show.

Nancy: Ha! Though I think it is important we discuss this K-drama because it got high ratings and won drama awards for popularity in Korea. So basically Heirs is about a poor high school girl Eun Sang, who meets Kim Tan, a rich, unhappy boy. Her mother works for his family, and she ends up going to his posh school where the have-nots are bullied. It’s said the writer wanted it to be like a Korean Gossip Girl, and there are many similarities. But where Gossip Girl suffered from too many plot turnovers so that the characters couldn’t fully develop, here THERE IS NO PLOT. The characters interact with each other, but nothing really happens. They are all gorgeous. They are all unhappy. And…? And…?

Woo Bin Eats Noodles!

Woo Bin Eats Noodles!

Anna: I think also it is somewhat similar to Boys Over Flowers, but Kim Woo Bin had the Tsukasa Domyouji part instead of Lee Min Ho. This is actually something that might have been interesting if it had been more fully explored, but nothing much happened. As I was thinking back over this show I thought that it would be great for people who want to see Lee Min Ho cry a lot, but I am unfortunately not one of those people.

In California for some reason. Also inexplicably wet.

In California for some reason. Also inexplicably wet.

Nancy: But Eun Sang has no spirit or courage like Tsukushi does in Boys Over Flowers, so the formula does not work. I remember thinking, “It’s good Park Shin Hye can cry at the drop of a hat, because nothing else is going on….” Let’s talk about the shining light in this drama–the reason I kept watching (besides morbid curiosity): Kim Woo Bin! Woo Bin as Choi Young Do stole the show. Heck, he WAS the show. The climax in this drama did not involve the heroine. It was Young Do running to find Kim Tan. Young Do was the only character who showed growth in this drama. He was a compelling baddie. I enjoyed his scenes with Eun Sang far more than Kim Tan’s. Though sometimes it was painful to see how much the script tried to pull from Woo Bin’s role in School 2013 and fail. Unexpectedly, I also enjoyed Lee Bo Na [played by Krystal of f(x)]. Her scene running from Yoon Chan Young in the hallway was delightful. But she talked so fast that keeping up with the subtitles was a challenge. And what did you think of the scenes shot in California?

Woo Bin being annoying and awesome!

Woo Bin being annoying and awesome!

Anna: I agree that there was far too much crying in this show. Kim Woo Bin was great! At first I found Choi Young Do really annoying, but as the drama progressed it was clear that his character was the main one that had any character development written into the plot of the show. Young Do was also so much more dynamic in personality than the large supporting cast. I also enjoyed the supporting romance between Lee Bo Na and Yoon Chan Young. I looked forward to their scenes, just because the more lighthearted nature of their issues was a huge relief compared to the heavy handedness of most of the other scenes.

I thought that the California scenes relied far too much on the scenery and setting, which was a problem since they came at the start of the show and nothing was really happening to make me invested in the story. The American actors were uniformly terrible, but I was expecting that.

Nancy: Someone told me on Twitter that the “Californian” actors had been hired in Korea and sent over, which makes perfect sense as they all had dodgy accents and looked like they had just stepped out of a rather seedy underwear catalog. Not only that, but nearly all the “Californian” roles were offensive–don’t even get me started on the wife beater wearing a wife beater! I was embarrassed for the writer for the puerile racism in those episodes. But I did enjoy the scenery and had a giggle at the number of locations they spliced together.

Sharing a tender moment!

Sharing a tender moment!

Anna: That rumor about the casting makes a lot of sense. Honestly, my expectations for the California setting were really low, and there wasn’t anything on those few episodes that was very good. I was holding out hope that the show would get better when the characters went back to Korea, and while more Woo Bin was good, if I hadn’t been planning on discussing the show with you, I would have given up midway through the season.

With the topic of wife beaters, I found myself mentally constructing a narrative about the costuming choices for the show. I wondered at times if the costume designer was deliberately trying to punk the audience, or if there was some other explanation for the terrible things that Lee Kin Ho had to wear. The sweaters were really something else.

Hello. Here is a sweater.

Hello. Here is a sweater.

Nancy: I tend to focus on knitwear when a K-drama gets boring, so it was good this was a fall/winter show! Min Ho in the pale pink angora cardigan to show his “soft heart”–BA HA HA HA! But Woo Bin’s sweaters were always dishy. They really should have a K-drama award for knitwear.

Lee Min Ho can wear almost anything, but I think even he cannot pull off pink angora.

Lee Min Ho can wear almost anything, but I think even he cannot pull off pink angora.

I feel that we must mention Heirs was the most-watched drama on DramaFever in 2013. It won out over Master’s Sun, Two Weeks, and School 2013: all of which had great stories. Heirs is pretty with pretty actors, and of course there is Woo Bin. But if you require that something actually happens in your K-drama, this show is not for you.

Anna: Woo Bin was great, and I would honestly like to see Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye together in a show again with much better writing.

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And one can hope that Lee Min Ho will make a triumphant return to hurting people with spoons once again!

Watch at Dramafever!

Filed Under: Bringing the Drama, Dramas

Bringing the Drama: Mischevious Kiss: Love in Tokyo

January 1, 2014 by Anna N, Nancy Thistlethwaite, Emily Snodgrass and Eva Volin 1 Comment

Mischievous Kiss: Love in Tokyo!

Mischievous Kiss: Love in Tokyo!

Mischevious Kiss: Love in Tokyo is available on Dramafever.

Anna: I tend to think of Itazura Na Kiss as one of those eternally fresh manga series just because it has inspired such a wide variety of adaptations in different countries, much like Hana Yori Dango (Boys Over Flowers). I was happy when the latest Japanese version was licensed since we don’t tend to get as many Japanese dramas as opposed to Korean dramas and I was also looking forward to experiencing the story of Itazura Na Kiss again. The basic plot about a dimwitted girl relentlessly pursuing a boy who is intellectually brilliant and emotionally distant is something that has been done over and over again in manga, but very few variations actually manage to pull the story off with as much humor and heart as Itazura Na Kiss. What were your initial thoughts about this series? Eva, I understand that you found this series stupefyingly boring! Had you also read the manga, or was this your first time encountering this story? I enjoyed the series quite a bit, but part of that might have been due to being able to see a live action version of a manga I’d read and enjoyed.

Kinnosuke focuses on Kotoko with laser-like precision.

Kinnosuke focuses on Kotoko with laser-like precision.

Nancy: I’m already a fan of the manga Itazura na Kiss, and I do like the Naoki in this version. All the leads were charismatic. I was also impressed with the adaptation until the last few episodes. I thought the story arc of Naoki’s little brother falling ill was done very well. Kinnosuke, Naoki’s rivals, also pretty much steals the show. I would definitely recommend it to fans of the manga.

Anna: I thought that for existing fans of the manga, the casting for this version was just really well done. There wasn’t a single character who I thought was miscast. I thought Kinnosuke was great, as was the captain of the tennis team.

Kotoko and Sudou stalk the objects of their affection!

Kotoko and Sudou stalk the objects of their affection!

Emily: I’ve been a fan of the manga for years, and I also think they did a great job at adapting the story. They hit all the major milestones for the first half of the series. I really look forward to season 2. The casting was well done as well. I was a little bothered by the huge age gap between the leading actors – she is 16 and he’s about 25, but he convincingly fit in with the others and looked good with her. This is a very… shoujo manga… story that may not seem all that original to modern viewers, but I think it’s because this is the series that influenced so many other series after it. Yet at the same time, it does things other shoujo-manga series usually don’t do– it follows the characters into college. How refreshing to see the romance (or lack of) go beyond high school into the larger world of college life.

Eva:
I am a fan of the manga, which may be why it was so tough for me to make the move to the live-action show.

I absolutely agree that the show was beautifully cast. Naoki is a perfectly dreadful person with floppy hair and an attitude. Kin-chan takes a healthy bite out of every scene he’s in. Kotoko is as silly and twitchy as she is in the manga. All of these are things I loved in the books and (except for the awesome Kin-chan) are things that made me tired while watching the TV show. Somehow Kotoko’s live-action lack of agency drove me crazy while the same lack of agency was endearing in the books.

Kotoko with Irie's enthusiastic and somewhat insane mother.

Kotoko with Irie’s enthusiastic and somewhat insane mother.

Anna: That’s really interesting! I didn’t have the same reaction, but I can see how something that is easier to take in manga format would become annoying in a live action format. Perhaps because the lack of agency in the manga can be resolved more quickly by moving on to the next chapter, but it might stick around for one or two episodes in the live action version.

Nancy: So that means it’s not just three to one, but four to zero, so people should give it a try. ;) Have we been keeping a record of our tallies?

Eva: Oh, I absolutely agree that people should give it a try. I wish more people would give the manga a try, too. I think it’s been tragically overlooked. But as we know from previous installments, my dumb-threshold is very, very low. Once around the dumb-bush was enough for me.

Anna: My overall reaction to the series was just that it was very adorable and heartwarming. The great casting, and the opportunity to see some signature scenes from the manga in live action format, like the tennis captain Sudou’s transformation into a demon on the court, or Kotoko’s horrible disguises as she stalks Naoki were very amusing. 4 out of 4 of us agree that you should give it a try!

Watch at Dramafever!

Filed Under: Bringing the Drama, Dramas, FEATURES & REVIEWS

Bringing the Drama: I Hear Your Voice

November 5, 2013 by Anna N, Nancy Thistlethwaite and Emily Snodgrass 1 Comment

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Anna: I Hear Your Voice is a show with a somewhat bland title considering the way it turns viewers into emotional punching bags. I’ve spent the past several weeks working through this show with a mixture of delight and dread. I Hear Your Voice takes some fairly typical plot elements like poor girl vs rich girl conflict and actually makes them interesting all while exploring the good and evil sides of human nature. Throw in a cute psychic teenage boy and an awkward but secretly handsome prosecutor into the mix, and you end up with one of the most unique dramas I’ve watched recently. I Hear Your Voice is streaming on Dramafever.

Yoon Sang Hyun inexplicably cosplaying as someone not hot.

Yoon Sang Hyun inexplicably cosplaying as someone not hot.

The not-so-good poor girl in this drama is Jang Hye Sung, a public defender who is sarcastic, apathetic, and is interested in her job only because of the potential for a steady income. Her nemisis is rich girl prosecutor and judge’s daughter Seo Do Yeon, who has a cold and calculated approach to the law. Hye Sung and Do Yeon are connected through a series of incidents in their childhood, with one of the notable incidents taking place when they witnessed the murder of a man with his young son in the car. The son is Park Soo Ha, a boy with psychic powers who grows into a teenager nursing his childhood crush on Hye Sung. As Hye Sung starts the next phase of her professional career, she encounters another new public defender, the almost belligerently idealistic Cha Kwan Woo. These four lives begin to intersect in very interesting ways as they are all affected by the murderer of Soo Ha’s father, Min Joon Gook.

Nancy: The first episode of this drama made me scream out loud! It’s more than just suspenseful–it’s terrorizing. You must be courageous to watch it, but it’s worth it. The characters all face devastating moral dilemmas. Hye Sung often wants to take the easy way out, and Soo Ha becomes her moral compass. But doing the right thing always comes at a high price in this drama. Hye Sung is pursued by Min Joon Gook, a callous murderer with a grudge to settle. The police are limited in what they can do to protect her, and as a lawyer she knows the justice system is imperfect: bad guys go free and the innocent are convicted. Hye Sung has to start believing in the law to fight Joon Gook the “right” way. At times in this drama I wondered how the courtroom players could have so many conflicts of interest going on in the cases because everything is interrelated. But it did make for good drama! Soo Ha’s ability is hearing other people’s thoughts, and he can hear Joon Gook’s true thoughts as the murderer works the system to gain a chance to extract revenge on Hye Sung. It’s positively Hitchcockian.

Anna: One thing that I Hear Your Voice was particularly good at was lulling viewers into a false sense of security. After Hye Sung started her job as a lawyer, I thought briefly that it was going to turn into a more typical romantic comedy show, and then truly terrible things happened! But even when Min Joon Gook is at his worst, the traumatic events never seemed arbitrary or present only for shock value. Everything plays out as the characters deal with the emotional fallout in different ways, and the relationships between them change as a result.

I have to say too, that I appreciated the fact that there were plot elements that set up the opposition between Hye Sung and Do Yeon in a way that gave it much more depth than the typical antagonistic relationship usually explored in dramas.

Soo Ha had some hilarious moments as he began to realize that the woman who was the focus of all his idealistic hopes and dreams lives like a slob and sometimes indulges in snacks while crouching before her refrigerator in the middle of the night. The looks of confusion and disillusionment on his face were priceless. I also liked Hye Sung’s horribly unfashionable ways of shielding her face to avoid giving away her thoughts to Soo Ha.

She is a delicate flower! Who enjoys sausages.

She is a delicate flower! Who enjoys sausages.

Emily: I admit, I have not finished this drama yet. The reason is because I’m kind of scared to! This show has me that worried for all the main characters! The creators are not afraid to take the plot to very dark places and leave you hanging on terrible cliffhangers. No one is safe! I had to pause while watching as it aired because those cliffhangers were killing me. I couldn’t handle waiting a week to see what happens. For me, this is a marathon show :)

Hye Sung is a great female lead. I like how although she is the ‘poor girl’ (vs the rich girl classmate) she is not a Candy type (the pure and innocent plucky heroine). She feels very… real. She makes good decisions and bad ones and can be both caring and generous as well as selfish and petty. (Soo Ha’s youthful idealism meeting the feminine reality of Hye Sung’s slobbyness was great). Her back story is unusual for a kdrama, and the link she has with Soo Ha must be one of the more unusual relationships I’ve seen in dramaland.

Someone left a perfectly good psychic young man out in the rain!

Someone left a perfectly good psychic young man out in the rain!

This is an interesting show in that even though it can be frightening and suspenseful, there is also a good deal of humor and some romance. That has to be a difficult combination to balance. I look forward to watching the rest, though I admit I may need to cling to a plushie to make it through the scary parts :D

Anna: Oh! I’m going to avoid spoilers except to say that I think you really don’t have to be scared of the ending. It is actually a nice counterpoint to all the dark places the show went, but it is still believable.

I also really enjoyed the fact that in the earlier episodes I was genuinely unsure of who the heroine would end up with, and the overall treatment of the second lead guy was much nicer than you usually see in kdramas. Sometimes the male second lead just fades away, but I didn’t think that was the case with this show.

Seo Do Yeon and Cha Kwan Woo bonding in an elevator.

Seo Do Yeon and Cha Kwan Woo bonding in an elevator.


Nancy:
I really enjoyed the Hye Sung role. Her character grows to such a satisfying degree. She regains the sense of justice she had as a child, but she’s still crafty as an adult. Although I am a romantic at heart, I thought the drama was stronger before Hye Sung and Soo Ha’s relationship changed in the later episodes, but it’s still worth watching.


Anna:
Overall, I thought I Hear Your Voice had a refreshing mixture of plot elements and tone that made it very compelling although a bit nerve wracking to watch. This is definitely a great drama to watch if you are looking for something a bit different to appreciate.

Watch at Dramafever.

I Hear Your Voice - when you need romantic comedy AND terrorizing melodrama

I Hear Your Voice – when you need romantic comedy AND terrorizing melodrama

Filed Under: Bringing the Drama, Dramas

Bringing the Drama: Flower Boy Next Door

July 10, 2013 by Anna N, Emily Snodgrass, Eva Volin, Michelle Smith and Nancy Thistlethwaite 8 Comments

ANNA: Flower Boy Next Door has a bit of a quirky premise for a k-drama. Go Dok-Mi (Park Shin-hye) has a severe case of agoraphobia, doing her editing work from her home, and almost never venturing outside. Her main outlet is spying on her handsome neighbor in the next building. Go Dok-Mi finds herself taken out of her familiar surroundings when she encounters Enrique Geum (Yoon Shi-yoon), a famous video game designer who spots her spying on his brother. Go Dok-Mi’s neighbor webtoon artist Oh Jin-Rak (Kim Ji-hoon) silently watches over her, and attempts to make sure her emotional equilibrium as a shut-in isn’t disturbed. Rounding out the cast are Cha Do-Hwi who is Go Dok-mi’s friend turned enemy from high school and Oh Dong-Hoon the assistant webtoon artist.

Flower Boy Next Door is available for streaming on Dramafever.

What did you think of this drama?

Flower Boy Next Door!

Flower Boy Next Door!

EMILY: I’ve really enjoyed this show. It has a very different look and feel to it than many other dramas I’ve seen. There is sort of a low key indie vibe to the production. I guess I’m used to seeing shows where there are chaebol/CEO type guys driving around in luxury cars and everyone has perfect hair and nice clothes (even the characters who are supposed to be poor). In this case, the drama feels a little more gritty. While many k-drama heroines face extreme hardship or past trauma, for the most part, they remain plucky and cute. Here we have a heroine who is actually damaged. She experienced past trauma, and it actually had an effect on her personality and how she lives. She didn’t just ‘try her best’ and keep cheerfully forging on; she shut herself in and hid from the world. Therefore, her character feels more realistic to me than other heroines. Her hair isn’t always perfect (or artfully disheveled) and she wears messy clothing. Her apartment is cluttered.

Bundling up in one's apartment saves money!

Bundling up in one’s apartment saves money!

As for the guys, while their occupations are a bit less realistic, at least they aren’t living like perfect rich guys either. Mr. Webtoon artist has a whole pile of issues of his own, and Enrique also has a failed romance. I really enjoyed watching these three interact and change after meeting each other.

MICHELLE: I love this drama with every fiber of my being. I love that it doesn’t follow the usual Guy #1 (he’s kind of a jerk but you know he’ll ultimately get the girl) and Guy #2 (he’s super nice and therefore you know he’s got no chance) formula. True, Enrique is rich, but he’s also goofy and has uncanny insight into Go Dok-Mi’s true thoughts. He challenges her, and she needs this. Jin-Rak is nice and handsome (and played by someone who’s been Guy #1 in the past) and considerate to Dok-Mi’s plight, but he puts her on a pedestal and indulges her eccentricities in a way that isn’t helping her.

I haven’t finished the series yet, but this is one love triangle that I don’t find predictable in the slightest. It’s so well-done, with more subtlety and depth than the other dramas I have seen (which admittedly is a very small sliver of the population).

ANNA: I liked the series very much but I had a more measured reaction. I thought that the innovative cinematography and storytelling were a bit front-loaded onto the earlier episodes, but I did enjoy the more realistic and gritty vibe of the show. I was genuinely uncertain for a little bit who the heroine would end up with! One storytelling element that I liked a lot was how transparent Cha Do-Hwi’s manipulations were and how quickly the men saw through some of them. Usually no one but another woman would detect the evil strategies of the female antagonist. It was pretty hilarious that after Cha Do-Hwi engineered a broken heel in proximity to Oh Jin-rak in order to have an excuse to summon his assistance, the webtoon assistant Oh Doog-Hoon immediately comments that it was interesting that all her clothes were from the current season, but her broken shoe was so last year in style.

I was also a big fan of the cranky, sleep-deprived webtoon editor.

The artists share a moment with their editor.

The artists share a moment with their editor.

EVA: As usual, I went the other way. I was really turned off by the series at first (slow, plodding character, same things happening over and over, the obviousness of Cha Do-Hwi), but as I’ve gone on (I’m currently on episode 10), I’ve grown to like the characters, I care more about their issues, and I’m loving the non-K-Dramaness (that indie vibe Emily talked about). I LOVE that no one here is living in an inappropriately posh apartment or on somebody’s roof. I LOVE that Oh Jin-Rak’s webtoon editor is an overworked, exhausted crackpot. I LOVE that none of the romances are proceeding smoothly towards a finish line. And I especially love that (with the exception of Cha Do-Hwi, of course) people who say they care actually do care and try to help. It’s refreshing and lovely and I wish more tv shows (American included) were like this.

ANNA: I thought that the reliance on Enrique’s crazy fans as a plot element bogged down the middle part of the series a little bit. Also, I thought that Enrique was cute, but the romance between Go Dok-Mi and Enrique was a bit like showing what would happen if a woman fell in love with cute teddy bear. I much preferred Oh Jin-Rak, but perhaps I just find cranky men attractive.

Keeping tabs on his neighbor.

Keeping tabs on his neighbor.

MICHELLE: Jin-Rak is, by far, the studlier of the two, but I think Enrique is healthier for her. But, that said, he could probably have as good of an influence if he were just to remain her friend. Jin-Rak seems willing to be friends, but it’s more from a place of “it will stress her out if I confess” than any real feeling of contentment with that role in her life.

NANCY: I would watch this drama just for the stressed-out webtoon editor. She was by far my favorite. I liked how this series started out, and the characters were well developed, but I did have issues as the series went on. At first this drama shows a very personal view of a woman’s struggle to rejoin society, and then towards the end we are merely watching from the outside, wondering what her motivations are. They shut us out from the shut-in!! Plus there are many gimmicks used in the last (and first) few minutes of each episode to create false cliffhangers. They have nothing to do with the main plot and actually lessen the integrity of the characters in some cases. I’m also going to show my support for Enrique–this drama would have been unbearable without him.

Everybody's favorite webtoon editor!

Everybody’s favorite webtoon editor!

EVA: Stressed-out webtoon editor is the character I’d be if I were in this series. Her bits of comic relief are some of the best laughs I’ve gotten from this show.

I’ve made it through episode twelve and, yay for man-tears and dry kisses! But, yeah. I hear what you’re saying, Nancy. Go Dok-Mi’s internal monologue and/or the narration of her journal writing gives us an entry point to how she feels about her life as a shut-in, how her expectations have contracted, and how willing to compromise her own desires she is if it means she doesn’t have to confront the world. I’ve enjoyed having that window during the last few episodes I’ve seen.

Also, for the first time in this series, I missed the ubiquitous bitch slap/coffee toss. I wanted more drama during the confrontations between Go Dok-Mi and Cha Do-Hwi. Instead we got silent tears, some fainting, and an unsatisfactory blame toss. These two have history and I wanted to see what happened. But nothing happened! Bah. I’ll keep watching, if only because I hope to see more of a closure to this relationship than we’ve been given so far.

ANNA: I liked the way stressed-out webtoon editor managed to be both hilarious and poignant at the same time. She ends up in a very nice place at the end of the drama, which was nice to see.

MICHELLE: Speaking of hilarity, there were quite a few bits on Flower Boy Next Door that made me laugh out loud, and I’m not the easiest person to make laugh. There’s that absurd moment in which Enrique catches Dok-Mi spying on his brother’s apartment… whilst clad in some weird furry panda hat/cape thing. Or the scene where a drunken Jin-Rak—who I am still used to as the humorless lawyer from Stars Falling from the Sky—decides to go to sleep amidst the building’s recyclables, at which point Dong-Hoon thoughtfully covers him with a stray piece of cardboard. I guess when I describe them, these don’t seem like the most clever jokes ever, but they certainly appealed to my sense of humor.

Enrique busts out his Detective Conan cosplay. As one does.

Enrique busts out his Detective Conan cosplay. As one does.

ANNA: I also loved the bit where the men were all pretending to be Spanish-speaking Italian mafia in order to punk Jin-Rak’s estranged family.

So, check out Flower Boy Next Door if you are interested in a k-drama with a slightly different sensibility than you might be used to. The combination of a gritty setting, camera techniques that evoke indie films, and some engaging characters in unusual situations make this a drama that is well worth watching.

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Bringing the Drama: Stars Falling from the Sky

March 19, 2013 by Anna N, Michelle Smith, Nancy Thistlethwaite and Emily Snodgrass 1 Comment

Anna: Stars Falling From the Sky is a drama with an unusual plot twist as the circumstances of the heroine change dramatically between the first and second episode. Jin Pal Kang is the worst insurance saleswoman in Korea. She’s superficial and spends most of her time shopping and spending her meager salary on items to attract the attention of her crush, an emotionless lawyer named Won Kang Ha. Pal Kang’s family life is extremely chaotic as her parents have adopted five younger siblings. Pal Kang’s life drastically changes when her parents get killed in a car accident. She manages to secure a job as a housekeeper for the handsome lawyer, but becoming the sole provider for five adopted siblings and actually maintaining her insurance job is going to be difficult! Won Kang Ha’s house is also occupied by his feckless nephew and his overly kind brother, providing a perfect set-up for a love rectangle. Stars Falling From the Sky is available on Dramafever.

Stars Falling From the Sky!

Stars Falling From the Sky!

I found this series immensely addicting and I watched all 20 episodes in a couple weeks. What were your reactions to the first few episodes?

Michelle: I went from almost violently hating everyone—except Pal Kang’s long-suffering best friend—in episode one to feeling pretty addicted myself by the end of episode two! The heroine turns around overnight, practically, and even the kids grow more distinct. I think I might end up actually making it to the end of this series (which would be a kdrama first for me), which I didn’t think would be possible when it took me several sittings to get through just the first episode.

Anna: The first episode was rough going, just because really the only characters that I liked were Pal Kang’s parents. That being said, I had a certain amount of sympathy for how selfishly she was behaving just based on her hectic home life. If I was a young 20something and was still living at home with a gaggle of siblings causing chaos everywhere, I might become overly fixated on snobby lawyers and shopping myself. I thought the ending of the first episode was so shocking I immediately started watching the second, and then I was hooked. One of the things I like so much about this series is the more realistic way the characters develop. Pal Kang becomes a much better person but it doesn’t happen overnight.

Michelle: I suppose I never did hate her dad, but her mother frustrated me with her refusal to do anything about the younger siblings destroying Pal Kang’s things and, in fact, blaming it on Pal Kang. But you’re right, the end of the first episode suddenly gets riveting starting with the parents going to the site of the proposed hospital. When I wrote that Pal Kang turns around overnight, I didn’t mean that she completes a transformation, but that she suddenly sees how frivolous she has been. And even when times are tough in her housekeeping situation and her first instinct is to complain about unfairness, she quickly follows it up with gratitude that they’ve all got a roof over their heads. She’s no saint, but she has matured a great deal quite abruptly.

Pal Kang sports the latest in apron fashions.

Pal Kang sports the latest in apron fashions.

Emily: Yeah, this is something I really enjoyed about this series – the unconventional heroine, Pal Kang. Yes, in episode 1 she starts off as very immature and flighty and irresponsible. It is almost painful to watch. But when times get rough, she makes a difficult decision and then STICKS to it. She changes herself, and then abides by her choice even when all the other characters around her try to drag her into the usual kdrama love triangle nonsense. While it does take her some time to ramp up her skills- it’s one thing to make a decision, and another to actually have the knowledge about exactly how to make things work, she keeps pushing forward and puts family first. Other characters put her into typical kdrama situations – especially the amazingly awful and delusional obligatory female rival – but Pal Kang doesn’t have time for her crap, and pretty much says so repeatedly. She has an iron resolve.

I also enjoyed the family bond between Pal Kang and the kids. They do all develop distinct personalities and each one supports the family in a unique way. And the child actors are great.

Pal Kang, the Cranky Lawyer, and a Gaggle of Children.

Pal Kang, the Cranky Lawyer, and a Gaggle of Children.

Our grumpy hero doesn’t have much to work with for a while, other than, ‘be grumpy and mean,’ but he does loosen up eventually and have more to do later. Pal Kang’s influence changes him a lot, and even he learns to respect and understand her choices.

Anna: The child actors were an aspect of the show that I wasn’t expecting to enjoy as much as I did. But they all had very distinct personalities, and I thought the oldest boy’s storyline portraying his anger at being suddenly orphaned was particularly good. Grumpy hero Won Kang Ha was grumpy, but I thought the writers at least gave him more history and motivation to explain his grumpiness, so I felt like his emotional remoteness was earned as opposed to being a bit of a stock character.

Michelle: I definitely came to like the kids more than I expected, especially since at the beginning their storylines revolve almost exclusively around having to go to the bathroom (complete with over-the-top squirming and facial expressions). Gradually, their distinct personalities do emerge and it’s fun seeing, for example, Cho-Rok and Pa-Rang have a discussion amongst themselves whilst the older kids are out of the room. I confess that clever Cho-Rok is my favorite.

Anna: The bathroom stuff was a bit excessive, but I will say as a parent to young children it is alarming how much you end up having to deal with bathroom stuff.

Nancy: I’ll touch on a few points already brought up. I hated this drama at first. Then it became engrossing, but I’m not sure it was worth all the hours in the end. I did dub this “Defecation Drama”–there should be a drinking game for every time a character has to go the bathroom, is constipated, is grabbing their ass (like that will help?!), or is grimacing while seated on the toilet. Oh, and the baby poop scene in the car… I thought they might actually slow-mo it or do a dramatic flashback because the makers of this show seem to be so enamored with poop!

Do NOT test a bottle that way!

Do NOT test a bottle that way!

Pal Kang was the high point of this drama. Her struggle to survive with her young siblings was very moving. There was enough drama without adding the scheming female relatives from the Jung family. Jae Young, the wannabe fiancée, was interesting before they made her jump off the deep end. The motivations of the Jung relatives made no sense after a while. Like in so many kdramas, the focus of the story was lost to its detriment.

The inevitable confrontation between lead guy and second lead guy!

The inevitable confrontation between lead guy and second lead guy!

I must bring up grandpa. He collapsed so many times in this drama after hearing startling news that I found it hilarious. If you watch this drama, see if you can predict each time grandpa will keel over.

Anna: It would be easy to come up with a drinking game for this drama based on bathroom issues, housekeeping problems, and grandpa’s collapses. There was something about the pacing and the cliffhangers at the end of each episode which were particularly compelling to me. I marathoned this series in a way I haven’t done with a kdrama in quite some time. Part of what interested me so much were the aspects of the series that were a bit unusual like Pal Kang’s unsympathetic character in the beginning. But I can see Nancy’s point about the standard kdrama plot points coming in and derailing the unique aspects of the show.

Emily: I could have done without most of the subplot involving grandpa’s family/corporate maneuvering and the obligatory Birth Secret, but I suppose it can’t be a kdrama without those things :) I liked watching the bond between Grumpy Hero and Sleepwalker ^^

Michelle: I reacted much the same to the cliffhangers, Anna. There was just something so compelling about them that made me forget all about bathroom ridiculousness. And I have actually not yet gotten to the bond between the Grumpy Hero and the Sleepwalker. Do you mean Pa-Rang? I anticipate some adorableness.

Nancy: Grumpy Hero and Sleepwalker were sweet. :3

Turn a lawyer into a marshmallow by making him deal with a child with an adorable sleep disorder!

Turn a lawyer into a marshmallow by making him deal with a child with an adorable sleep disorder!

Anna: So Stars Falling From the Sky features a heroine who is maddening at the start of the show but who redeems herself by the end, an over reliance on bathroom issues as a plot point, a grumpy lawyer lead guy, cute kids, a fainting grandpa, and some adorable sleepwalking. If you are going to embark on this show, I recommend watching at least the first two episodes before making a decision to continue or not, because it really does change drastically from the first to the second episode.

The family that scams grocery store samples together, stays together?

The family that scams grocery store samples together, stays together?

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Bringing the Drama: Big

August 3, 2012 by Anna N, Emily Snodgrass, Eva Volin and Nancy Thistlethwaite 6 Comments

Big: Not as charming as one would assume from this promotional image

ANNA: For this episode of Bringing the Drama, we are going to talk about Big, which is notable because it is the new show from fan favorite creators the Hong sisters and it also features the return to television of Gong Yoo, who was previously so excellent in Coffee Prince. The series is available on Dramafever and Hulu. Big‘s title and plot is a reference to the classic Tom Hanks movie of the 1980s but in execution the show might provoke more flashbacks to Freaky Friday. Gil Da Ran is studying to be a teacher, and her life seems to be going fairly well because she is engaged to be married to a doctor, Seo Yoon Jae. Yoon Jae doesn’t always seem to be able to find the time to spend with Da Ran, and a shady female colleague wants to break the couple up. Da Ran has an encounter with an overly precocious and slightly obnoxious teenager named Kang Kyung Joon. Kyung Joon and Yoon Jae get into a car accident with each other, and when Kyung Joon wakes up, he’s in the older doctor Yoon Jae’s body! Kyung Joon’s teenage body is stuck at the hospital in a lingering coma. What is Da Ran going to do, with a teenage boy in the body of her attractive and reserved fiance?

What were your reactions to the first few episodes?

EVA: I’m getting more and more used to Korean comedies starting off in tragic ways. Unrequited love! Orphaned children! Accidental drowning! What fun. But this one actually is. I completely bought Gong Yoo as both the doctor and the teenager (in fact, it took me until about halfway through episode three before I gasped and shouted at the computer, “It’s that guy from Coffee Prince!”) and Lee Min Jung’s reactions to both versions of Gong Yoo’s character is convincing. I’m impressed at how well the two actors are pulling this off.

EMILY: The first thing I noticed about Big is that it has a different feel than the other Hong sisters dramas I’ve seen. They usually go for the screwball comedy right from the get-go (just look at the beginning of You’re Beautiful) but this time they went with a more serious first episode. There were hints of humor, but in general, episode 1 plays things straight and sets up the premise of the story. Things start to get funnier in episode 2, but even then, it feels a bit toned down.

I like Gong Yoo in pretty much everything I’ve seen him in. Really, he could just sit there and read the phone book, and I’d probably tune in. In this drama, he faces the challenge of playing two characters- the adult doctor, Yoon Jae, and the teenager-trapped-in-an-adult-body, Kyung Joon. We don’t really get to see him in his role of Yoon Jae for very long, so it’s difficult to get a handle on the character. When he starts acting as Kyung Joon, he really lights up. I think he does fall into that trap, at first, of acting TOO childish, when trying to act like a teen, but he gets over it quickly and settles into the role.

I’m somewhat disappointed in the heroine, Gil Da Ran. She seems like such a cliched naive Kdrama heroine. I like how she acts around her younger brother- feisty and in charge- but everywhere else, she seems to have some doormat tendencies. While she isn’t quite as blindingly naive as Minam was in You’re Beautiful, she still scores high on the unbelievably-innocent scale. I have no problem with the actress playing her; it’s the character that feels a bit weak.

I love Da Ran’s family. They have a wonderful dynamic, one that almost mirrors the situation Da Ran will eventually face. Da Ran’s father is about 12 years older at least than her mom. In fact, they were teacher-student. Yet in spite of the age difference, and lots of parental drama they hint at, they have a successful and loving marriage. Something for Da Ran to keep in mind, perhaps, as she will no doubt become confused by the presence of Kyung Joon’s soul in her fiance’s body.

Thank you, Hong sisters, for all those bare-chested-post-army-body-fanservice scenes of Gong Yoo :)

One of the better things about Big: Gong Yoo and his abs

NANCY: I’m about eight episodes into the drama now, and I still don’t know what to make of it. It is not “Big,” for those who care about those kind of things. I would call it…a half-assed Secret Garden. Harsh, but…true.

I agree with Emily that Gong Yoo acts too childish for a 17-year-old (18 in Korea), and to top it off, his acting in no way resembles how Shin Won-Ho (the “real” Kyung Joon) interpreted the character. Kyung Joon is treated as such a child by Gil Da Ran that it’s impossible to view him as a romantic interest for her. So then is Yoon Jae her romantic interest? But he’s never around, so we have no idea what he’s like. It’s great that the viewer is unsure about Yoon Jae’s true feelings just as Gil Da Ran is—that is what makes the plot interesting—but it doesn’t work beyond that.

This is a romantic comedy without the romantic comedy. There is no couple to root for. I have no idea where this drama is going, and I feel like the drama itself doesn’t know where it’s going either.

EVA: See, here’s where it shows that I’m the noob here: I have no idea what Secret Garden is. But, yeah, this is nothing like Big and kinda-sorta like Freaky Friday.

It’s also clear that I’m (at least with this show) willing to cut the actors more slack than Emily and Nancy are. Yeah, Gong Yoo isn’t portraying the Kyung Joon character the same way Shin Won Ho did. But I was having so much fun with the character the way he decided to play it that I didn’t care. Heh.

ANNA: Actually having no idea where the show will go is mainly what appeals to me for this drama. Being unsure of which couple to root for actually seems somewhat refreshing. I’m sure that there will be a happy ending, but right now I’m not sure what to expect. I honestly am not sure if Gil Da Ran would be better off with Kyung Joon in in Yoon Jae’s body or the real Yoon Jae. She seems to have built much more of a solid friendship and companionship with Kyung Joon, even though she does treat him like a little kid. She really didn’t know Yoon Jae very well, despite being engaged to him. I agree that Gong Yoo’s frenetic little kid act settles down a bit a few episodes in. I’m afraid I’m too much of a fangirl to be all that critical of Gong Yoo’s performance or interpretation of the character, because he’s just so appealing as a lead character.

I feel like I have to give a shout out to Jang Ma-Ri, Kyung Joon’s ex-girlfriend who shows up and quickly suspects that something is wrong. She’s basically like The Terminator with ridiculous hair fashion accessories, and she injects a comedic element into the series that is definitely needed.

Ma Ri: Making Hair bows Menacing!

NANCY: I agree that Suzy as Ma-Ri is a great addition to the series! At first her interpretation of what is basically a sasaeng (crazy stalkers of kpop idols) scared the hell out of me. But once she stops acting like a freak, we see a loyal person who is trying to right a past wrong. She’s charming, and I also feel for Da-Ran’s brother.

Basically I’d like this series a lot more if Yoon Jae would just wake up to fix the plodding pace of this drama. :p

EVA: Ma-Ri is awesome. Once we got past the crazy stalker stage she became, fittingly, the most American of the characters — no noble idiot here. If she wants something she goes for it and damn the consequences. She may be incredibly annoying to the rest of the characters, but to me she’s a breath of fresh air.

I’m still only seven episodes in, so hearing that the show turns plodding is not good news. Emily, is there hope for a turn-around?

EMILY:
I finished the series this week, and was extremely disappointed with it. I still love Gong Yoo, and think he did a fantastic job with what he was given, but the writers really dropped the ball here. They just went in circles for so many episodes. There were so many pointless scenes. Heck, all of episode 15 is a waste of time. Even Ma-ri becaume a useless plot contrivance in the last episode- I can’t believe she got away with what she did, good grief. I also can’t believe this is a Hong Sisters Drama. I really enjoyed so many of their other shows (You’re Beautiful, Greatest Love, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, etc) that I can’t understand what they were thinking when they came up with this series. I am usually very easy to please, but in this case, I was just left scratching my head and wondering what the hell I just watched. *sigh*

Still, this has been a good year for dramas over all. I LOVED Queen In-Hyun’s Man, I’m still enjoying A Gentleman’s Dignity (in spite of 1 episode of stupidity, the rest of it has been pretty solid), and there are a bunch of new shows coming that look like they will be fun. That’s the nice thing about the Korean and Japanese TV systems- if you don’t like a show, just wait 3 months, and a whole new crop of shows will start :D

ANNA: Oh, I was hoping it would get better by the end! I was stalled out at episode 10, but I was thinking that the Hong Sisters would somehow be able to pull off the show. My tastes in drama generally tend to synch up with yours, do you think the show is worth finishing, or should I switch over to A Gentleman’s Dignity for more satisfying drama watching?

EMILY: Personally, I would switch. Apparently, the Big ending was a let down to a LOT of people, judging from the flurry of blog posts I am seeing today. Granted, it’s not the worst ending I have ever seen in a drama (that honor goes to the K-drama “Let’s Go To School, Sang-Doo” and the J-drama “Cheap Love”) but it is extremely weak and leaves lots of questions. And important events happen off screen. So annoying.

ANNA: How quickly my excitement over a new Hong Sisters’ drama has turned into crushing despair! If we aren’t going to recommend that people watch this one, what should people watch instead? Coffee Prince, to experience the glory of Gong Yoo in a series with much better writing? Secret Garden, if people are looking for a series about body switching that is less maddening?

EMILY: Watch Coffee Prince for Gong Yoo, Secret Garden for awesome body-swapping, and You’re Beautiful/Greatest Love/Girlfriend is a Gumiho for better Hong Sisters efforts. ^_^

At least we can all cherish our memories of Coffee Prince!

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Bringing the Drama: City Hunter

March 28, 2012 by Anna N, Emily Snodgrass, Eva Volin and Nancy Thistlethwaite 9 Comments

Anna: For our first Bringing the Drama feature we picked the romantic comedy You’re Beautiful, so for our next column we decided to vary genres a bit and discuss a more action-oriented series very loosely based on a manga, City Hunter. City Hunter is the story of a boy named Lee Yoon Sung who is taken from his mother as an infant and then raised in Thailand by an ex-spy turned Drug Triad Boss as an instrument of revenge against the Korean government. Returning to Korea with a doctorate from MIT, our hero promptly gets a job working in computer security for the government and encounters a feisty female bodyguard named Kim Na Na. Together, they expose corruption and struggle with their mutual attraction! City Hunter is available for streaming online on Dramafever, and Netflix.

City Hunter. Hunts in the City!

Anna: Have you read the City Hunter manga at all? I have the first volume and I’ve paged through a couple chapters, and I have to say that there’s not much resemblance between the manga and the drama, other than the fact that both versions of City Hunter wear sharp looking blazers and have womanizing tendencies.

Emily: It took me a while to decide to watch the City Hunter drama (and I still haven’t finished it, though I plan to). I am a huge fan of the manga, and it’s blatantly obvious that the only thing this drama has in common with the source material is the title. I was only really able to enjoy this by telling myself that it isn’t REALLY City Hunter, it’s a completely different franchise, and the name is just a coincidence :) There is no way Lee Min-Ho’s character resembles my beloved pervert Ryo Saeba, that’s for sure.

Nancy:
I haven’t read the City Hunter manga, so I didn’t have to battle the same expectations as Emily did. I really enjoyed watching this drama. I usually choose romantic dramas, so the action in this was refreshing. And it stars Lee Min Ho.

Eva: I haven’t read any of the manga either, and now that I’ve heard from Emily, I’m kind of glad I haven’t. While I understand that a book is a book and a television show is a television show and one is never going to be just like the other, if your show is going to be nothing like the book, why bother licensing it?

City Hunter's Daddy Issues

Anna: I thought that this was one of those series where you really have to watch at least 2 episodes in order to get into it. Not that the first episode was bad, but there’s so much tragic back story in the show to start out with, Lee Min Ho doesn’t show up until over a half hour into the starting episode. What did you think about the shift in tone between the first and second episodes?

Emily: I was also worried, after watching episode 1, that this series would take itself too seriously, and be all dramatic action and depressing stuff. That first episode is all back story, and while I suppose it’s useful, I sort of think that it might have also been interesting to open the series with Lee Min Ho’s character just arriving in Seoul for his job at the Blue House, and for them to let us in on his back story bit by bit as we watch him work his revenge. I was happy to see the dreary tone lighten up a little once Na Na arrived on the scene.

Nancy:
I think the first episode needed the gritty beginning to prepare you for the political intrigue and brutality ahead. If you can’t sit through the beginning, you may not be able to take the rest of the drama. There will be blood and violence. There will be mean, dastardly men in power. There will be sweet romance too, but this is a bitter, fatalistic drama. That’s part of the beauty of it. You’re not sure how it can end in any other way than tragedy, so you keep watching.

Eva: I was hooked from the first episode, and that’s rare for me. As I said in our discussion of You’re Beautiful, it usually takes me three to four episodes to really get into a kdrama, which is about how long it takes for the writing team to figure out which direction they’re going to take the show. But City Hunter started off with a bang: tragedy! deception! crime! gunfire! more tragedy! It was fantastic! And then, once Lee Min Ho’s character was introduced, we got a much needed humor break and it was fantastic, too! The second episode gave me even more action hero action and I couldn’t have been happier. I mean, I like me some romantic comedy, don’t get me wrong, but there’s nothing like violence and vigilante-ism to get my heart pumping.

The sad thing about episode two is that Kim Na Na’s back story is so much less interesting than Lee Yoon Sung’s. And the whole Blue House cadre — especially the stupid, stupid, stupid president’s daughter — well, you have to take the bad to get the good, right?

Anna: I feel that any discussion of City Hunter would be incomplete without an examination of how cute Lee Min Ho is. What are your thoughts on this matter?

Lee Min Ho: Great Tsukasa or Greatest Tsukasa?

Emily: Lee Min Ho is very cute, but I admit that I think I liked him best with his ridiculous haircut from Boys Over Flowers. Or maybe I just like him more with his hair off his forehead. I was also happy to see him wearing pants that reach past his ankles. In Personal Taste, his character always wore these floods/highwater type pants that annoyed me so much :) I think he has great chemistry with all of his leading ladies.

Anna: He is my absolute favorite live-action Tsukasa! I agree that he is the type of actor who can manufacture chemistry with anyone. While he wasn’t wearing floods in City Hunter, I found myself sometimes perplexed by his pink pants. They don’t seem like the type of thing anybody would wear if they were engaged in covert action in a city.

Nancy:
I really liked Min Ho in this. I think he’s a great action star as well as a romantic lead. At some point you wonder why Lee Yoon doesn’t just run the hell away or off his bastard father altogether, but somehow Min Ho is able to keep you believing in the choices his character makes despite all the craziness happening around him. I prefer him in this to Boys Over Flowers.

Eva: Lee Min Ho is adorable. It’s funny that Emily should mention his hair from Boys Over Flowers, because I was mesmerized by his hair in that series. Lee Min Ho’s hair is about as convincingly curly as mine is (which is to say, not at all), and I loved watching the curls slip slowly down his head whenever the weather was even remotely humid. And that chapter when they were in Thailand? At the hotel right on the water? Hahahahahaha! I think his stylist just gave up at that point and walked away. Hee! It still makes me laugh just thinking about it.

I will say that over the years, Lee Min Ho’s acting keeps getting better and better. He’s earning some comedy chops and I was surprised at how well he has pulled off the action scenes. I still don’t find him terribly convincing during the sensitive, romantic scenes, but that may be due to the fact that he’s freakishly tall compared to his costar. There’s one scene where Lee Yoon Sung comes up behind Kim Na Na and embraces her, resting his head on her shoulder. And even though it can’t be seen onscreen, everyone knows that he’s had to bend so far over to get down that low that his butt must be sticking out into the room behind him. Which, for me as a viewer, kind of spoils the mood.

Anna: One of the things I found amusing in the staging of the action scenes in City Hunter is that it seemed like there were some Bourne movie influences in the way Lee Yoon Sung fought his enemies. There were several scenes where he relied on improvised weapons like a rolled up folder or a random spoon. This also underscored his reluctance to kill, because he wasn’t always reaching for a gun to shoot his way out of tough situations.

City Hunter and His Covert Pants


Anna:
The main source of dramatic tension in this series was found in the different philosophies towards revenge that the father and son exhibit. Lee Jin Pyo is determined to carry out his revenge through straightforward assassination, but Lee Yoon Sung wants to expose his adopted father’s enemies to public censure instead. Did this conflict, combined with the detective work in hunting down Lee Jin Pyo’s betrayers maintain your interest throughout the series or however much of it you’ve watched?

Eva: I would have liked to have seen more of the father-son conflict in the series, but then again, it was the action/adventure side of City Hunter that drew me to the series in the first place. Lee Jin Pyo was awesome in his ruthless take-no-prisoners approach to revenge (his smug smile of satisfaction was something I found myself looking forward to towards the end of the series), and the conflicting revenge styles made for good drama. What I didn’t like was when the conflict between father and son became an afterthought. What I kept hoping for was what we had with the show IRIS, where it was the romance that was the afterthought and the intrigue that was, well, intriguing.

Anna: I thought that Lee Jin Pyo was also awesomely ruthless his approach to revenge and his wearing of cravats. I wish that there had been a tiny bit more nuance in his approach though, because it did make his behavior and reactions a little bit predictable.

City Hunter is Surprised!


Anna: Does anyone have any theories about the prevalence of “Daddy Long-Legs” type plots in dramas? Having the righteous young prosecutor sending Kim Na Na anonymous notes of encouragement and presents certainly helped cement the love quadrangle that provides a nice contrast to the father-son angst and action scenes.


Emily:
Regarding the use of Daddy Longlegs themes in dramas, I know I have seen the trope before, though a specific instance is eluding me. My impression, though, is that it is usually part of what eventually turns into a romantic gesture (as opposed to a mentor/sponsor adult supporting a child in a paternal sort of way) and dramas usually end up making what could seem like a kind of creepy thing into something kind of sweet. I guess you could consider the super nice supportive second lead guys as Daddy Longlegs characters. Like Shinwoo in You’re Beautiful, when he would do nice things for Minam in secret (and losing the opportunity to reveal himself). The helping-the-girl-in-secret thing is, as I thought in You’re Beautiful, nice, but too passive. Given that kdrama heroines are often naive, the bold approach is better. I think the Daddy Longlegs approach would only work with a stronger, sharper, more assertive heroine, because she would figure out who her benefactor is, or at least would have a funny reaction to all the unwanted help.

Daddy Longlegs, prosecutor, hunter of City Hunter, this guy does it all!

Anna: I think there was a fair amount of Daddy Longlegs in the second lead’s approach to the heroine in Coffee Prince too, since he was generally in the quietly supportive mode, taking her out for a makeover and just generally being her cheerleader.

Anna: What did you think of Kim Na Na’s character arc? I confess that I was hoping that she’d be the focus of more heroic action towards the end of the series, just because so much was made of her abilities as a woman of action in the first few episodes. I was a little disappointed, but not surprised that she ended up in more of a girlfriend role at the end.


Eva:
I still haven’t seen the last four episodes, so I don’t really know what happens with Kim Na Na at the end. I’m guessing (this is a Korean drama, after all) that her father wakes up from his coma, that Lee Yoon Sung’s mother goes into remission, and that all four live happily ever after eating food cooked by Bae Shik Joong. But I don’t actually know.

Emily: I have only seen half way through City Hunter, so I can’t comment on the end of Na Na’s storyline. But my impression of her from the beginning is that she is a reasonably strong character (working hard to earn her position, skilled at martial arts, etc) even though she still has a bit of that kdrama-heroine-naivety . She doesn’t seem like the weak type that needs rescuing all the time.

Kim Na Na demonstrates her judo skills


Nancy:
I think Kim Na Na’s story arc ended before the series did. She was just hanging around, waiting for the ending, and perhaps that could have been structured better, but I feel her character was consistent throughout and she overcame her own set of obstacles. I was not displeased.

Anna: My hopes were probably raised too high after seeing Kim Na Na throw Lee Yoon Sung around so much at the beginning of the series. Still, I think it is notable that Na Na is able to be as much of an action heroine as she is.

So overall, City Hunter is a show with great production values, a good mix of tragedy, comedy, and action, and it features an engaging cast of characters anchored by the always handsome Lee Min Ho. If you haven’t seen it yet, check it out! If watching City Hunter prompts you to seek out other action-oriented series, a good one to try next is the spy saga IRIS.

City Hunter

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Bringing the Drama: You’re Beautiful

February 13, 2012 by Anna N, Emily Snodgrass, Eva Volin and Nancy Thistlethwaite 14 Comments

ANNA: To start out this new feature on Manga Bookshelf, I thought that You’re Beautiful would be the ideal show to discuss, because I think it would be a good first series for anyone to try who isn’t familiar with Korean dramas. There are plenty of plot points in You’re Beautiful that manga fans can appreciate, due to the cross-dressing reverse harem scenario that the heroine has to face.

You’re Beautiful is the story of a novice nun who has to impersonate her twin brother and join a boy band, cross dressing as an idol singer. It is available for streaming on Dramafever and Hulu.

What about You’re Beautiful do you find compelling?

EVA: Of the four of us, I think I’m the newest kdrama watcher. I’m still learning the conventions, quirks, and tropes of Korean television, so many of what you all take for granted I still find either hilarious or perplexing.

What brought me to You’re Beautiful was, if I remember correctly, you and Emily chortling about it on Twitter, then Emily and Nancy coveting the stuffed pig-rabbit that came with the deluxe edition of the DVD set. (I may have my time line a bit skewed. It was a while ago that all this took place.) I figured anything that had all three of you so excited must be worth giving a try.

What kept me going past the first three episodes (I’ve learned that kdramas don’t often get started until at least episode four) was how deliberately silly the show is. Even as a novice viewer it was easy for me to spot many of the things the show parodies. From our heroine’s first appearance on screen as a ditsy nun (a trope that usually drives me crazy), to the boy band decked out in lace and guyliner, to the evil arch-rival plotting against them all, there is nothing about this show that takes itself seriously.

ANNA: I was also inspired to watch You’re Beautiful after seeing Emily post about it on twitter. For me, it was the first drama that I’d watched that wasn’t a manga adaptation, and it ended up being a bit of a gateway drug because I promptly immersed myself in watching many more dramas after finishing it.

Minam is tortured by cute idol singers. Tortured!

Minam is tortured by cute idol singers. Tortured!

I think that You’re Beautiful’s silly tone is one of its strengths. It isn’t cynical at all, which is quite refreshing in today’s world. Even though the characters do plenty of ridiculous things, their actions totally make sense when you consider their personalities. When sheltered Minam has to face entering a locker room filled with undressed men, the mental gymnastics she puts herself through in order to maintain her disguise result in one of the most hilariously surreal scenes I’ve viewed in a TV show.

A.N.JELL lead singer Tae Kyung might be an emotionally distant OCD case with an odd obsession with cowl neck sweaters, but compared to how he might have turned out considering his harpy of a mother he’s actually not so bad. Poor Jeremy wanders around like a lost puppy, wondering why he keeps having visions of his new band mate eating fruit in slow motion, and Shin Woo’s penchant for quiet observation and on-demand emotional support doesn’t further his goals of romance.

So even though there’s plenty of guyliner and ridiculous scenarios, the core cast is remarkably sympathetic in the midst of all the silliness. When the characters do goofy things like pondering the dangerous nature of bidets or getting trapped on a moving truck, they aren’t ever really the objects of ridicule for the audience.

Chibi A.N.Jell

NANCY: Kdrama is the new shoujo manga! At least for romantic comedies. This drama was written by the Hong sisters, who definitely brought the “shoujo manga” aesthetic to this series. There are even chibi versions of the members of A.N.JELL (the fictitious kpop band in the show) that can be seen on merchandise in the drama itself. And that pig-rabbit is merchandising gold–I still want one! Unfortunately it wasn’t included with the YA Entertainment release here.

At the time this came out, I think I was still a bit hesitant about many of the TV dramas because they can reach high levels of tragedy sustained over many episodes, which can be grueling to watch. Like Eva, I wasn’t keen on the “Sound of Music” beginning with the hapless nun, but by the end of the first episode–with its super-shoujo ending–I was hooked.

Tae Kyung, King of Guyliner


EMILY: I’m a huge fan of shoujo manga, something that is chock full of ridiculous situations, unrealistic characters, and romantic comedy. There are also quite a number of series featuring cross dressing idol singers. Therefore, when I heard about a kdrama that embraced these same themes I’m so fond of, I was all over it. As an added bonus, You’re Beautiful is by the Hong Sisters, a writing duo whose work I have previously enjoyed (Fantasy Couple, Delightful Girl Chung-hyang, My Girl) so I had high hopes it would be good. I was happy to find myself hooked rather quickly. You’re Beautiful is silly, and the characters are all so exaggerated, but it’s so much more fun that way.

The Hong Sisters have a way of taking cliched situations and putting just the right amount of spin on them to bring unexpected results, or a surprise laugh. They are masters of parody. And what can I say, I love seeing surly heroes like Tae Kyung (king of all guyliner) be taken down a peg or two, be it from falling for Minam, or being chased by a wild pig.

Shin Woo in a clever disguise!

ANNA: That’s funny that Emily and Nancy were commenting on the similarities of You’re Beautiful to shoujo manga, because for me it was my first time getting sucked in to the kdrama staple plot of the second lead guy’s hopeless romance with the main girl. I really wanted Minam and Shin Woo to end up together even though I knew that wasn’t likely to happen. The Hong sisters really packed this show full of interesting supporting characters and plot lines.

Other than the romance of the main couple, what were your favorite supporting characters or stories?

NANCY: I have to say I was always a fan of the leading man, Tae Kyung, snarls and pouts and all. Jang Keun Suk is captivating, even when his acting is deliberately overblown. I also have a soft spot for Lee Hong Ki, who plays Jeremy. Jeremy is the one who keeps finding his bandmates in suggestive situations with Minam, whom he believes to be a boy. This drama also includes one of the best tongue-in-cheek nods to female fandom. There’s a scene in which Jeremy reads slash fanfic about the band in an online forum, and he then goes on to imagine how it would play out. You then see the three male leads reenacting a love triangle.

Minam’s online test to become an official fan of A.N.JELL is another gem. I feel that I can’t talk about Jung Hong Hwa (Shin Woo) or Lee Hong Ki without mentioning that their bands (Hong Hwa’s C.N. Blue and Hong Ki’s F. T. Island) will be holding a joint concert in Los Angeles on March 9.

pig rabbit

Who wouldn't want a slightly toxic pig rabbit?

EVA: Hahaha! I love how Nancy’s unabashed love of Kpop sneaks its way into every conversation.

It’s hard not to love Jeremy. The adorableness of everything he does is almost cuddly. And the scene Nancy described is one of the standout scenes from the entire series. But my favorite side character is Minam’s archenemy Yoo He Yi, played by Uee. The Evil! It Burns! She’s so effective as the villain because she really, truly thinks she’s in the right, that Minam is the bad guy (girl), and that Tae Kyung just doesn’t understand. Her love is pure, by golly, it’s pure!

EMILY: I’m generally a first-lead fan, so I was Tae-Kyung/Minam all the way. Shin Woo was nice, but was waaaay too passive. It’s funny how he kept trying to be a shoujo manga-type prince, doing all these secretly sweet gestures, but he should have realized that with a heroine as dense, er, naive as Minam, he needed to be a bit more outgoing to make her notice. I felt bad for him, but it also sort of felt like he was stringing her along and getting more personal kicks out of being the secret helper. He put himself on the sidelines, so he shouldn’t be surprised if he ends up there. I think my favorite supporting character was Jeremy. He managed to be really sweet and considerate and likable in spite of the strangeness of his hair. (Seriously, what was up with his hair? Poor guy). And yes, the BL fanfiction scene and Jeremy’s support of it is one of the best moments in the series :)

Jeremy, confused by fruit.

NANCY: Caught by Eva!! I enjoyed Yoo He Yi as well (and Uee happens to be in the kpop group After School–ha ha ha!). I also agree with Emi that Shin Woo was too passive. In a way I feel Jeremy got robbed because most of his time was spent with Angelina Jolie, his golden retriever. He never got the chance to be a serious contender for the heroine, but his scenes are a joy to watch.

ANNA: I totally understand why you’d say Shin Woo was too passive – setting up elaborate scenarios and expecting Minam to guess his feelings was doomed to failure. One of the nice things about the way the Hong Sisters wrote You’re Beautiful is that it is possible to enjoy the supporting cast even when they are portraying characters that might be unsympathetic like Yoo He Yi.

But how do you feel about some of the other characters who are a little more villainous?

Even though Minam’s aunt was a focus of comic relief, she’s pretty much a hypocrite for seeking out her nephew only when she discovers that he’s in a boy band. What about Tae-Kyung’s mother? I pretty much wanted to drop her down a well for her selfishness, even though she is given plenty of back story to explain her motivations for being the Worst Mother In the World.

EMILY: In regards to the villains of the series- they are all so totally selfish!. Tae Kyung’s mother gets ranked high up there on the evil kdrama mom scale. She is even worse than the stereotypical evil kdrama mom type that always tries to bribe the poor girl to stay away from her rich son. In this case, she doesn’t even care enough about her son to go that far. As for the idol angel He Yi, she was a good obstacle in Minam and Tae Kyung’s road to true love, but I did get annoyed at how little she actually had to work to be that obstacle. All this great ammunition kept falling right into her lap without her having to do any snooping or conniving! I would have liked it if she had to work harder to be evil :)

ANNA: I agree that the villains could have used a bit more nuance. Maybe it is just the dramas that I’ve watched, but I’ve found that there isn’t a whole lot of subtlety to be found in the antagonists. I’m not sure what all the evil kdrama moms indicate, perhaps many of the drama writers have mommy issues.

NANCY: I think the evil mother was in there merely for Tae Kyung’s character development and to show why he was a cynical guy in the first place. I did worry a bit that You’re Beautiful would follow the lines of Winter Sonata with his mother’s obsession with Minam’s father, but thankfully that did not come to pass.

EVA: I guess my last question on this topic is: What, if any, kdramas have you watched as a result of watching this one?

I tend to follow actors and actresses I’ve come to enjoy (which is easy with kdramas, since there seems to only be 27 different actors/actresses in the whole country who just rotate around the various channels and genres). I think my viewing flow went something like this: I saw Kim Myung Min in Bad Family, so I followed him to Beethoven Virus. In Beethoven Virus I was introduced to Jang Geun Suk, so (after I heard you all talking about it) I followed him to You’re Beautiful. In You’re Beautiful I was introduced to Hyun Jyu Ni, so I followed her to IRIS where I was reunited with Jung Joon Ho who I had loved in Last Scandal.

Do you three do the same? Or do you have other ways of finding new shows to watch? Which show would you suggest as a follow-up to You’re Beautiful?

ANNA: I went on a major kdrama binge after watching You’re Beautiful, and I can’t trace my viewing flow as exactly as Eva does. But on what next to watch after You’re Beautiful, I think you have the options of following either the actors or finding something similar in tone. I haven’t watched many of the other Hong Sisters’ dramas, but I did enjoy Greatest Love quite a bit, which has the same satirical take on show business with the benefit of having adult as opposed to teen characters.

I did watch Heartstrings solely because of wanting to see Jung Yong Hwa and Park Shin Hye together again, but while it was fun to see them overall I thought it was a tad on the inert side dramatically. For a similarly funny drama, I’d actually go with Protect the Boss, which is a hilarious show about a juvenile delinquent who gets a job as a secretary for a spoiled young company heir.

You're Beautiful

You're Beautiful

EMILY: I don’t have an easily followed chain viewing pattern like Eva either, but I do mainly watch dramas for actors I like, and genres I like (romantic comedy), then creative staff. I enjoyed the dramas the Hong Sisters made after You’re Beautiful– My Girlfriend is a Gumiho and Greatest Love. Both were wonderful in different ways. Once again, the Hong sisters take common kdrama cliches and twist them around a bit to make something refreshing. In particular, Greatest Love takes another look at the show business world from a different perspective than You’re Beautiful and manages to have a lot of excitement even without a specific ‘bad guy’ character.

For other crazy romantic comedies, I have to agree, Protect the Boss is fantastic. I love how everyone in it is just a bit insane, plus it has awesome bromance.

Another series that deals with teens trying to make it in show business is Dream High.

Two other series that have a ‘girl masquerading as a guy’ theme are Sungkyunkwan Scandal and Painter of the Wind. Both of them are historical dramas. Sunkyunkwan Scandal has a more fusion-historical-idol-pretty-boys-hijinks-ensue sort of feel to it, while Painter of the Wind is more dramatic. I keep hearing that they are planning to make a kdrama version of Hana Kimi, but I have no idea if it will ever happen.

On a random note, I’ll watch anything with Park Shi-hoo in it because he is the amazing second lead guy who can actually get the girl (he has stolen the girl from the first lead at least twice now).

NANCY: I did watch some of Marry Me, Mary as a result of this drama (also starring Jang Keun Suk), and I may finish it someday. Keun Suk is also in a new drama Love Rain, which I will check out. I usually find kdramas by what people are talking about on Twitter, though I do watch shows with kpop stars too. (Iris is on my list. T.O.P ;))

I think if you like You’re Beautiful, you’ll like the kdramas based on shoujo manga like Boys Over Flowers, etc.

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Guest Review: Itazura na Kiss, Vol. 1

March 28, 2010 by Nancy Thistlethwaite 1 Comment

Itazura na Kiss, Vol. 1
By Kaoru Tada
Published by DMP


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High school student Kotoko Aihara has admired Naoki Irie from afar after hearing him make an exceptional high school entrance speech two years ago. Her dream has been to get out of Class F (the class for underperformers) and into Class A—the same class as the school genius Naoki. However, as academics aren’t Kotoko’s strong point, she instead writes him a letter to tell him how she feels. Naoki flat-out rejects her letter offering in front of the entire school, saying he doesn’t like stupid women. Later that night after a mild earthquake destroys her new home, she and her father end up moving into the Irie household.

Itazura na Kiss is a romantic comedy that deals with the uncertainties of life in an amusing, reassuring way. Kotoko constantly finds herself out of her element and out of her depth. She is living in another family’s house and neither Naoki nor his little brother Yuuki wants her there. She hopes to attend college, but her entire class is failing the high school exams. And because she’s in Class F, Kotoko and her classmates are considered inferior and ridiculed by the rest of the school. To top it off, she has unwittingly attracted the attentions of a well-meaning but overly emotional yanki-type, Kin-chan, whose passionate, public declarations make her life at school even more embarrassing. Yet even through this, she now has a mother figure in her life (Naoki’s mom) who loves having a girl in the house and who does everything she can to make Kotoko feel welcome, including bringing Kotoko and Naoki together at every opportunity. Kotoko has great friends, including Kin-chan, who are there to help and watch out for her. Even Naoki, however unwillingly at the onset of trouble, is there to lend a hand when it matters. Her uncertainty about her future doesn’t go away, but she has two loving families living together in the same house to support her as she finds her own path.

Kotoko is a dreamer with a big heart. It’s these qualities that allow her to press on when others would simply give up. And most girls would with Naoki. He’s conceited, apathetic, and takes special pleasure in making Kotoko feel uncomfortable. But living in the Irie household gives Kotoko a chance to get to know a side to Naoki that he doesn’t show to others, and he is smart enough to realize that her involvement in his life is making him grow as a person. Rather than Naoki, who may be on his way to becoming a more compassionate person, Kotoko’s growth centers on surpassing obstacles that are deemed impossible by other more practical characters.

As well as creating engaging characters, Kaoru Tada had a gift for facial expressions. Readers can quickly grasp the emotional and comedic aspects in any given scene. Her artwork is full of gags, but this enables those rare quiet moments to have a special impact. This series was created in the early nineties, and it has smaller panels and fewer screentones than you would find in many current shoujo manga series. This isn’t a detriment to the work; it’s simply different. It also should be noted that the series wasn’t complete at the time Kaoru Tada passed away. However, this series is about the characters’ journey through life, not their destination, so it remains a fulfilling read even though the series never reaches the mangaka’s planned ending.

Itazura na Kiss has long been a favorite of mine, and I’m glad to see it released in the US. Few shoujo manga series allow the reader to follow the characters out of high school and stay with them as they go through subsequent stages of life. Amid the hardships and uncertainty the characters face, there is joy in these pages. Highly recommended.

Review copy provided by the publisher.

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