MJ: I’ve just realized how few jokes I know. You always open with a joke. I’ve got nothin’.
MICHELLE: That’s okay. I freely admit that most of mine aren’t very good. And even if you’ve got no jokes, you’ve surely got manga to talk about!
MJ: Indeed I do! Should I go first?
MICHELLE Please do!
MJ: Well, I know we have a special request to grant at some point here, but before we get to that, my big read for this week was the debut volume of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, adapted from the popular anime series. This is obviously a highly-anticipated release. In a rare twist, I’ve actually seen the anime series, and since I enjoyed it very much, I’d have to admit that this manga series was even highly anticipated by me. Ultimately, I’d say that this is not necessarily in the manga’s favor, though there is a quite a bit here to enjoy.
The series begins just as you’d expect from a magical girl story. Madoka is an ordinary girl with ordinary friends, who is suddenly approached by a talking catlike creature (Sailor Moon shout-out, I assume?) named Kyubey who offers her the opportunity to have a single wish granted if she’ll sign a contract to become a magical girl. This is understandably exciting for Madoka (and her friend, Sayaka, who is also invited), but nothing is quite as it first seems. Madoka’s magical dreams are quickly tempered by the reality of untimely death in a magical girl’s future, as well as by a mysterious new girl, Homura, who for some reason insists that it is of vital importance that Madoka not sign on with Kyubey—to the point that she makes repeated attempts on Kyubey’s life in an effort to save Madoka from him.
Having watched the anime series, there isn’t a lot of mystery in this for me, but even taking that into account, there are ways (mostly visual) in which the manga pales in comparison to its source material. For instance, one of the most spectacular elements of the anime series is the ornate visual fabric of the dimension inhabited by “witches” (the beings our magical girls are being asked to destroy). These encounters with witches are elaborate and rather psychedelic, and they really help to emphasize the series’ darker take on the magical girl formula. In the manga series, these sequences just look kind of drab and lumpy, and they are glossed over so quickly, the sense of real danger and anticipation is lost along with the general aesthetic. Even the fight scenes could really stand to be longer (did I really just say that?), as they seem to lose a lot of their tension and significance.
On the other hand, this story is compelling no matter how it’s told, and if the artist has failed to quite capture its eeriness, its pathos remains intact. I’m happy to see, too, that Madoka’s family life, headed up by her fearless corporate shark of a mom and her homemaker dad, is just as charming here as in the anime series (if granted slightly less screen time).
MICHELLE: This sounds a bit like Bokurano: Ours, in which middle-school-aged kids are duped into a contract that requires them to destroy aliens and die in the process. I do think, though, that you’ve sold me more on the anime here than on the manga.
MJ: Well, and perhaps I mean to, though I feel a bit bad about it. I have a lot more stake in the manga industry than I do in anime, yet in this case I can’t deny that the manga suffers in comparison. It is still quite interesting, though, and I’m looking forward to the second volume. It really is a very compelling story, regardless of how it’s being consumed.
One little oddity (and this applies to both mediums)— Puella Magi Madoka Magica is a magical girl series that resembles modern series for a male audience much more than a female one. You can easily identify all the usual suspects: the glasses-wearing girl, the spunky girl with fang teeth, the pretty girl with long, black hair, the self-conscious yuri jokes… you could be watching Lucky Star in that respect. This doesn’t detract from the series at all for me, but it definitely gives the series a bit of a male otaku vibe—at least that’s how it reads to me.
So, what’s next?
MICHELLE: Well, I’ve also read something that’s an adaptation from another medium, though this time it’s from a dating sim for girls!
You may recall that I talked about Alice in the Country of Hearts way back in our second ever Off the Shelf column. There, I initially referred to it as “bishie land” then instantly reconsidered, since the plot focused more on the mystery of the world in which the heroine, Alice, found herself than in her myriad romantic prospects. The series was much better than I expected, and I liked it so much that I sought out the sixth volume in Japanese after TOKYOPOP’s demise meant the series would not conclude in English (though it will be released in its entirety by Yen Press this summer).
Alice in the Country of Clover: Bloody Twins is an adaptation (by a different artist) of another game in the series, and though certain elements are reset, it functions fairly well as a sequel. Alice remains in the world that she believes is a dream and has become fairly comfortable there. Nearly every male resident is interested in her, but her constant companions are twin boys “Dee and Dum,” who constantly proclaim their love for her and who like to a) glomp her all the time and b) kill people. A shift in the dream environment moves everyone to the land of Clover, where the twins gain the ability to turn into grown men, whereupon they act the same as ever, causing Alice to get flustered and blush a lot.
This is another case of a series suffering in comparison to something else. Where Alice in the Country of Hearts surpassed my expectations for a manga adapted from a dating sim, Alice in the Country of Clover meets them fairly exactly. There is no focus on the mystery of the world at all. Instead, this reads entirely like a “what if” scenario: what if Alice fell in love with the twins? She’s still a reasonably likeable character, rather embarrassed that she’d dream up such a scenario, but Dee and Dum are so empty as people that it’s disturbing that she’s not disturbed by them. It’s utterly impossible for me to root for this romance, but perhaps I was never intended to, as the short stories rounding out the volume explore different “what if” pairings for Alice.
That said, Alice in the Country of Clover isn’t outright bad. I definitely smiled a few times at the humor, and can see myself checking out the next Clover installment, Cheshire Cat Waltz, which Seven Seas is publishing next month.
MJ: I suppose my feeling here is that you’ve perhaps sold me on Alice in the Country of Hearts rather than on this sequel, which sounds… not bad, but probably not worth prioritizing over better manga.
MICHELLE: And, like you, perhaps I meant to, but I feel bad about it! I definitely hope that people support Seven Seas by checking out the Clover titles.
And now… the special request. A few weeks ago, you reviewed the tenth volume of Pandora Hearts in our Bookshelf Briefs column, and we received a comment from Releona, who said she’d like to see it featured in an Off the Shelf column, as she was interested in our thoughts on it in greater detail.
Your wish is our command, Releona!
MJ: Since I’ve already done a review of sorts, would you like to get us up to speed on the series’ plot at this point?
MICHELLE: I’ll take a shot at it, though Pandora Hearts is one of those series that makes sense in the short-term but is not exactly clear in terms of its long-term plot trajectory.
Oz decides that the best bet for restoring Alice’s lost memories would be to visit Sablier, scene of a great tragedy a century before. Separated as they approach the epicenter of the disaster, Oz, Alice, and Gilbert see illusions from the past, each of which introduces some intriguing twists to the story, mostly in the form of answers about how the tragedy came to be. All of this is quite interesting, but mangaka Jun Mochizuki is adept at making the story about the characters, so the most compelling aspects are sympathizing with the character who brought about the tragedy as well as watching Gilbert angst oh-so-prettily about his memories and the possibility of being driven mad by them.
Probably I could read a manga that was all about Gilbert angsting prettily, but it sure was nice to get a little more shape to the story at this point.
MJ: Most readers by now have probably figured out that I’m a big fan of this series, and given that I’ve gone on in rapturous delight about its costuming, it’s probably a given that I’d happily read a whole manga about a prettily angsting Gilbert as well. But I certainly agree that this volume was a balm for the muddled brain. Not only was it a relief to understand Gil’s full history at last, but it also helped me to despise another character much, much less. And really, I wouldn’t have thought that could happen. Though probably I now hate Glen Baskerville much, much more.
Also, though Alice takes a back seat in this volume, the scene in which she confuses a kiss with a bite on the cheek is one of her most charming moments.
MICHELLE: It was, though I was startled to see how very obnoxious she was in the past. She may actually be a better person without her memories, which I’m sure is Mochizuki’s intent. Speaking of nice moments, I was also very happy that Oz actually feeling free to complain about something for the first time was given the significance it deserved. Gil desperately needs to be needed, and Oz still relying on him in a crucial moment brings him back from dangerous thoughts that still seem to be plaguing him, even at the volume’s end.
In addition to Gil’s violent impulses, another thing I’d like to see Mochizuki explore soon is Jack’s relationship to Alice and how much it influences Oz’s feelings towards her. In fact, this ties in to another important reveal in this volume, namely why Jack was consigned to the Abyss to start with.
I suppose my bottom line is, “this volume is not to be missed.” Not that I would advocate missing any of them, really.
MJ: Oh! And another thing that was a fairly big deal in this volume is Oz’s increasing ability to become one with the B-Rabbit. It was frightening, for sure, but pretty interesting.
And yes, I agree. This volume is not to be missed. It’s a substantial payoff for some of the confusion we’ve endured (amidst all the beauty) thus far.
Readers, if you (like Releona) have any special requests for Off the Shelf, feel free to let us know!
CJ says
June 7, 2012 at 10:25 pmLooking for stuff for my Otakon list, I decided to give Alice in the Country of Hearts a whirl myself. Didn’t look like my thing, but it was one of Tokyopop’s biggest sellers before their demise, right? And my library had it! Well 5 vols at least, so I grabbed 3. I probably should’ve grabbed all 5 clearly. First vol was a bit “meh, don’t see what’s so special”, but the more I saw of the setting, the more I liked it. I think Alice is just….kinda there, nothing special for me, but nothing annoying either, but in vol 3 she got a bit more interesting (though I don’t agree with her “well he’s a bunny, so now he can be a perv without bothering me too much” thing, that annoyed me). I’m not sure if it’s worth a purchase, but I do at least intend to finish the series once the library gets the Yen editions in. Hopefully it will be worth a buy in the end.
wandering-dreamer says
June 7, 2012 at 10:32 pmI’ve been following PH online as well as in print and Jack’s relationship with Alice is explored but it’s a bit off now. I have to say it’s nice to see some people who actually like the series, while I can find plenty of fans online I don’t seem to find that many reviewers who like the series and talk about it in depth so this was rather nice. ^^
Travis says
June 8, 2012 at 7:23 amYeah, Madoka aired in the middle of the night and the manga was published in a seinen magazine, so it doesn’t just resemble series aimed at guys; it is one. ^_^;;
Melinda Beasi says
June 8, 2012 at 7:26 amWell, I was pretty sure that was true, but I didn’t want to state it outright, lest I incur otaku wrath. ;) Thanks for confirming, though!
Aaron says
June 8, 2012 at 9:30 amYeah Madoka gave off the this is for male Otaku vibe but it was directed by the guy who did Nanoha so that should be a clue interesting story Ume Aoki thought she was doing a regular Magical Girl sereis until Gen Urobuchi announced he was killing off her favorite charcter in episode three. Also notice most of the criticism of the Madoka manga is of the art not the story so much.
Aylinn says
June 8, 2012 at 3:37 pmIt’s nice to see reviewers discussing Pandora Hearts. It’s a fantastic story that gets less love than it deserves, …well maybe it will change once the volume 14 comes out.
About Alice… I would not call her obnoxious rather cruel, but I always thought the cruel Alice who said Vincent that his brother would be killed by Glen was the Will of the Abyss and not her twin sister Alice the B-rabbit.
With the benefit of hindsight I can see that Oz using B-rabbit power as if it were his own was a good foreshadowing.
Releona says
June 8, 2012 at 5:59 pmThe flashback portions with Alice are an enigma, I know it’s commonly thought in the fandom that the Intention fo the Abyss is the one who said it, but there just isn’t enough to parse it one way or the other with certainty. Yes, it’s similarly sadistic to how the Intention treated Break/Kevin in volume 7, but the Intention also said that she ‘never done anything to him (Vincent)”. Not that that proves much as she has memory issues and isn’t the most reliable interpretor of what constitutes as ‘wrong’. I also think that the light clothes = Intention dark clothes = other Alice is an oversimplification, added onto the manga’s black/white, plus the possibility that they might have just switched and the new Alice didn’t have time to change all leads me to the conclusion that so far, there isn’t any way to know which Alice said that.
Her motivations for what she said when she and Vince first met aren’t much clearer. Like the Intention in volume 7, was it from a sadistic joy in others’ pain? Or a sheltered girl unable to quite grasp the sensitivies? Sometimes when I read that scene it does come across as merely innocently curiousity. But Alice is oh-so-good at blending innocence and malevolence, so it’s hard to tell… Of course by the time she told Vince about Gil, a pretty severe enmity developed between them, so yeah, by then cruel.
Aylinn says
June 9, 2012 at 2:01 amReleona I know why Alice said it. That’s why I used the past tense :) but it’s revealed in the latest chapter, so I didn’t want to go into the spoiler territory.
Releona says
June 8, 2012 at 6:27 pmYay! :D
I’m really glad and quite grateful that you guys actually did this!
It’s pretty apparent that memories and their affects is an important aspect of the manga, and Alice did come across like a spoiled brat when she was with Jack, and different to now when she’s with Oz. Gil and Vince are also interesting views on this, and it’s pretty unfortunate that Gil forgot everything and Vince didn’t.
If I’m correct in figuring the character despised much less is Vincent… It did surprise me that I couldn’t loathe someone so abusive, sadistic, and misogynistic as him as much as I thought I should. His treatment of Echo is inexcusable, but his devotion for Gil still really tug on my heartstrings. More so than disgust at some of his behavior. I guess I really am a sucker for strong family bonds in manga.
And that prettily angsting Gil… I lost all respect for him during this volume, though I did sympathize and pity the poor guy. When I first saw Gil pledging loyalty to Oz in the second volume, I thought it was rather nice and sweet. After this volume, rereading that scene made me wince and feel like shaking the kid. He’s kneeling there, smile on his face, happily reciting the lines to a play he doesn’t even know he’s forgotten. He thinks he’s doing it entirely of his own volition, but he’s not, and he’s entirely oblivious. Heck, in the third volume Alice mentions that she thinks it’s weird that Gil follows Oz, and he just completely misses and confirms the point; yelling at her to not insult his master. There’s something about Gil’s situation that just really, really, got under my skin, I’m not entirely sure why. But Gil and Vince are definitely the most affecting characters of this series to me, though both Alice and Oz have certain delights and somehow Lacie of all people has cemented herself as my favorite character.
Sadly, I hope you enjoyed your brain balm and answers, because it’ll be a while. Then again the next arc seems to have more character development than confusion… Kind of. Well, we’ll see.
Though I’m guilty of scanlations (just can’t muster the patience and dedication to wait that long for new material), today I finally got to the bookstore and bought this volume, and found two rather notable implications in the text that I missed the first time, so yayness. While volume 11 is my least favorite, that volume in particular has a lot of the fan translations that are pretty dubious to me, so I’m still looking forward to it.
Releona says
June 8, 2012 at 6:34 pmOh! And it was nice seeing the thoughts on Madoka Magica. As someone who’s come to anime/manga recent-ish, and then mostly shonen shows, I never really had much exposure to the magical girl genre, and so I think I missed a lot of what made the show great. I did find some portions of the story fascinating, particularly Sayaka, but it was the witch dimensions and soundtrack that really sold the show to me, sadly I guess this means the manga does lose out. Bokurano: Ours… I vaguely remember reading some other stuff on this site about that manga, being curious and toying with the idea of tracking it down.