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April 6, 2012 by Sara K. 9 Comments

The Condor Trilogy in Manhua: The Legendary Couple

To see an example scene, please refer to the second post in this series, The Condor Trilogy in Manhua: Fighting.

The Legendary Couple is Tony Wong’s version of the second novel, Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ. Even though it’s the second novel, Tony Wong adapted this novel before he adapted the first novel.

Art

Yang Guo, passed out, is about to be attacked by a giant snake.

The style of The Legendary Couple, unsurprisingly, has a lot in common with Tony Wong’s Eagle-Shooting Heroes, but is less spectacular than the latter. The fights in The Legendary Couple are simpler and shorter—yet they are more confusing. There is less contrast to help readers quickly distinguish the various elements. That’s a pity, because I generally find the fights in Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ to be more engaging than the fights in Shè Diāo Yīngxióng Zhuàn.

Yang Guo and Xiaolongnu fight the master of the Passionless Valley - with swirling swords used by all parties

Sure, there are lots of swirls—but they are not as pretty as the ones in Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes. There are also visual metaphors, but they are not as abundant or exciting as the visual metaphors in The Eagle-Shooting Heroes. There are diagonals and slanted views, but not nearly as much as in The Eagle-Shooting Heroes. There are also some sweeping vistas … but they are not as plentiful as in The Eagle-Shooting Heroes.

Xiaolongnu weeps with a sunset in the background

Almost everything in this manhua seems to happen at sunset or in the early evening. That’s rather appropriate. More than the other two parts of the trilogy, the second part is about things falling apart. Song China is collapsing under the weight of Mongol invasion. The main characters’ personal lives are constantly tottering on the brink of collapse, more so than in the other parts of the trilogy. The sunset and evening colors do help pull out the angst and melancholy.

Xiaolongnu, Wan Botong, and the Jade Bees (the Jade bees are attacking Wan Botong, and while Xiaolongnu offers to help him, he actually likes being stinged by them)

Something that really comes through in this adaptation is how well Tony Wong can express characters through art. Comparing this with The Eagle-Shooting Heroes, I don’t think the characters are actually drawn better in The Legendary Couple … but because the other elements of the art draw less attention, there is much more focus on the characters. Their movements are lively, but most importantly, the drawings clearly expose the characters’ feelings.

As soon as Huang Rong has finished giving birth, Xiaolongnü prompty kidnaps her newborn daughter. If that's not melodrama, I do not know what is.

What Tony Wong really does better in The Legendary Couple than in The Eagle-Shooting Heroes is hitting the high notes of the drama through art.

Ouyang Feng remembers his son, Ouyang Ke

I particularly like the collages Tony Wong draws when characters are remembering earlier events.

Yang Guo and Xiaolongnu see each other in color, and everything else in rendered in black and white.

And there are various visual gems throughout the manhua—for example, this use of color vs. black and white to show how these two characters only see each other and are unaware of their surroundings.

The Tibetans have captured Guo Fu.  Her mother and sweethearts are watching the Tibetans.  Yang Guo and Xiaolongnu watch everybody.

And this is one of my favourite pages in the entire manhua because it really lets the reader put the scene together—but first, this page needs some labels.

Same as the previous image, just with the characters labelled.

This page so perfectly captures the tension of this moment. The captive’s mother and sweethearts want to rescue her … but they also do not want her to get hurt, which is why they are staring at the Tibetans instead of attacking them. The Tibetans know that they are being stared at, but are confident that they have the upper hand. Everybody is too preoccupied to notice the people in the top-left corner of the page … but the wildcard characters are watching everything, unsure of what they want. Suffice to say, when the tension reaches a breaking point and the weapons come out, it’s the wildcard characters who decide the outcome.

While I prefer the art of Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes for its sheer majestic sweep, I have to admit that the art in The Legendary Couple does a better job of supporting the story itself.

Adaptation

Whereas I was not able to quite lose myself to the story again in Tony Wong’s Eagle-Shooting Heroes, I did get involved in the story of Legendary Couple. It’s still a streamlined version, with some parts of the story changed and many bits removed. Some of the changes bother me (I cannot describe them without spoiling), but most of my quibbles are minor. Overall The Legendary Couple is a more complete version of second novel than Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes is of the first novel. And I think that makes the difference.

It’s still not nearly as rich an experience as reading the original novel. The details left out in The Legendary Couple often come at the cost of the pathos and the depth of the characters. This adaptation is generally quite good at conveying the melodrama itself, but it is often not so good at conveying the other aspects of the story. The soft moments do not feel so soft, the quiet sad moments do not seem so quiet and sad, and in the joyful moments the joy feels a little muted. To be fair, the silly moments—at least the silly moments which were not cut out—are still quite silly in this adaptation. I think it is not the lack of drama which makes this adaptation feel a little thin—it’s the lack of the things which nuance the drama. Nonetheless, Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ is such a passionate novel that even a watered-down version of it can still hold its own against, say, 70s shoujo manga.

Availability in English

ComicsOne published 7 volumes of The Legendary Couple in English. They are now out of print, but apparently not hard to acquire. I do not know how the ComicsOne edition corresponds to the Hong Kong or Taiwan editions, so I am not sure how far into the manhua it goes. Based on the covers, the ComicsOne edition seems to cut off somewhere in the Hong Qigong/Ouyang Feng arc. There is another manhua adapted from Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ which has been fully published in English—not to mention that the 1983 live-action drama, the 2006 live-action drama, and the anime are all available with English subtitles—so it is certainly possible to continue the story in English after the ComicsOne edition cuts off.

Conclusion

If you want a good comic to read, I would definitely recommend The Legendary Couple over Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes. This manhua can definitely stand on its own, whereas I am not sure Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes would work for anybody who was not already familiar with the story.

Yet, I personally prefer Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes. While The Legendary Couple is much better at capturing the spirit of the original and certainly has its moments, I feel that I did not get much from The Legendary Couple which I could not get from Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ—and the novel Shēn Diāo Xiá Lǚ has much more to offer. Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes, in spite of its flaws, stretched my imagination. The Legendary Couple, for the most part, did not.

Discussion Question:

Which would you rather read, Tony Wong’s The Eagle-Shooting Heroes or The Legendary Couple?


Sara K. has been travelling for the past few days (these blog posts are canned), so she has not been terribly responsive. She is now back in Taoyuan county, and should finally be replying to whatever comments people left. Currently, she is reading Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils (the novel, not the manhua, which also happened to be drawn by Tony Wong).

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  1. john says

    April 11, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    im trying to find the collection of this comic but it stop at vol 7…can anyone help me finish this collection ( in English please) i’ve waited almost 9 yrs to finish it. it is my favorite story of all time.

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    • Sara K. says

      April 11, 2012 at 7:11 pm

      Unfortunately, it is impossible to go past Volume 7 in English … after Volume 7, they stopped printing in English. In order to get a full set, one has to get one of the Chinese-language editions. I’m willing to help you get a Chinese-language edition if you’re interested in that.

      If you want to stick to English, these are your options:

      – Return of the Condor Heroes by Wee Tian Beng (this is the same story, and unlike The Legendary Couple, it *is* complete in English – the review will appear at Manga Bookshelf on Friday)
      – Return of the Condor Heroes (1983) TV series – completely available on DVD with English subtitles
      – Condor Hero (2006) TV series – also available on DVD with English subtitles

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      • Lawrence says

        October 19, 2012 at 12:43 pm

        I have also have all 7 volumes of the manhua in English. I’ve been trying for many years to get the post volume 7, Chinese-language editions. I would be very grateful if you could help me get these or tell me how you managed to purchase them.

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        • Sara K. says

          October 20, 2012 at 8:52 am

          I have access to them because I live in Taiwan. The Chinese-language edition is out of print, so I would have to secure it from a second-hand store, and I don’t know whether any of the second-hand stores I frequent has a copy on hand right now.

          If you live in the US, or can send money to US bank accounts, I could (try to) acquire a second-hand set and send it by mail, and you would pay me the cost of purchasing the books + shipping from Taiwan. Unfortunately, I am not set up to accept international payments, so if you cannot send payment to US (or Taiwanese) bank accounts, then I don’t think I can help you.

          I don’t know what the shipping costs would be (and it would depend on the service – sea mail is cheapest, but would take 6 weeks – several months), but if I can find this in a second-hand store, it would probably cost about 60-70 USD.

          Oh, and I am quite busy right now, so it will be a couple weeks before I will be able to actually do anything.

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          • Scott C. says

            November 28, 2012 at 11:03 pm

            I’m interested in acquiring the Return of the Condor Heroes books as illustrated by Wee Tian Beng that you mentioned. I’m trying to find a set in English and it’s hard as anything. Sara K., as odd as it sounds that I’m in the U.S. and your in Taiwan, do you ever come across these? Obviously the series was not as big of a hit over here as it was in Asia. I think I’m probably one of the only white guys around reading all of the Wuxia stuff I can get my hands on.

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          • Scott C. says

            November 28, 2012 at 11:06 pm

            I’m desperately trying to get my hands on some English printed copies of the Return of the Condor Heroes. Oddly, they are extremely rare here where English is dominant. Sara K., do you mind me asking if they are more available in TW? I’m dying to pick up the story where Legendary Heroes left me hanging… … …

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            • Sara K. says

              November 29, 2012 at 12:48 am

              I have never seen any of the English-language editions here. Now, Chinese-language editions on the other hand…

              Anyway, you should look at the post I wrote about the Wee Tian-Beng edition:

              http://mangabookshelf.com/blog/2012/04/13/the-condor-trilogy-in-manhua-return-of-the-condor-heroes/

              It has all of the information about getting an English-language copy that I know of (well, I also know that Mile High Comics has a couple English-language volumes on hand, but that’s only slightly helpful).

              If you just want to consider the story, you might also consider looking into the 1983 TV series, or even the 2006 one (both are available on DVD with English subtitles). I’ve only seen a little, but based on what I’ve seen (and the reviews I’ve read) I’d recommend the 1983 series over the 2006 series. You also might be interested in the series of blog posts I’ve been writing about this story lately: http://thenoteswhichdonotfit.wordpress.com/2012/11/19/asexual-themes-in-shen-diao-xia-lu-part-1/

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